Disasters in logic

Scott Adams should probably revisit his assumptions if he wants to play with logic:

After reading the replies to my prior post, I am forced to administer this logic test to the believers among us. Find the error in either the assumptions or the line of reasoning.

1. Ordinary people can be convinced to believe almost any ridiculous thing.

2. I am an ordinary person.

3. Therefore, it is POSSIBLE that I have already been convinced to believe something ridiculous.

1. DEPENDS. Every individual, ordinary or extraordinary, CAN theoretically be convinced to believe ridiculous things. However, there is no shortage of examples demonstrating how ordinary people cannot be convinced to believe things that are both non-ridiculous and demonstrably true, even if the aforementioned thing is not complex and require no formal scientific training beyond the ability to read or listen.

I would have agreed with this statement: “Every human being is capable of believing information that is factually incorrect.”

2. FALSE. This depends on the precise definition of ordinary, of course, but if we apply Ockham’s razor and assume the most common definition, I have numerous pieces of paper as well as copious statistical evidence that this is not the case. Moreover, even the most ordinary person is extraordinary in some way; I imagine that convincing people that they are ordinary would be harder than “rounding off the edges” of what Mr. Adams considers to be their misplaced beliefs.

3. FALSE. The assumptions are flawed, ergo the conclusion fails even though I strongly agree with it on other grounds.

Scott’s bigger problem is that many believers are already inured to pure reason by faith. For example, every Christian knows that he is incapable of grasping God’s wisdom, moreover, most Christians have witnessed this sort of shoddy logic, or worse, outright fraud and factual ignorance, used for similar purposes. Having seen the sociologists, psychologists, archeologists and historians repeatedly embarrass themselves in incompetent attempts to attack the bases of Christian belief, most intellectually inclined Christians are more likely to roll their eyes than experience a crisis of doubt when presented with yet another nominally reason-based assault on their faith.

I think anyone who doesn’t fully grasp the current state of quantum mechanics and world politics is foolish to even attempt to play at this game. Such a tiny minority have even the smallest understanding of the verities of the natural world that it is insane to expect anyone to be capable of comprehending the supernatural.

Derbyshire on the apocalypse of immigration

We are all Meximericans now, if the Senate and President get their way:

I’m just scratching the surface here. The stupidity and rottenness of CIRA is really beyond the ability of a single human mind to encompass it.

And for Republicans, the most shocking, most shameful thing of all, is that this act to vastly swell the number of future Democratic voters, to bring about “the greatest expansion of the welfare state in 35 years” (Robert Rector), to kick working-class Americans in the teeth, to render meaningless the very concepts of our nation and our citizenship — in fact, to shove U.S. citizens off the sidewalk so that foreigners can be awarded special privilieges not available to us — this appalling monstrosity was cheered through by a Republican Senate at the urging of a Republican president. For shame, for shame, for shame.

I will not vote for any politician who helped pass this bill; I will not vote for any politician who says so much as a word in its favor — make that a syllable — and I will not even vote for any politician who agrees to go into conference on this horror. How big are Capitol Hill garbage bins? That’s the only place this heap of dreck belongs.

For some time now, I’ve said that one day, people will eventually begin to understand that we do not have a two-party system, we have a bi-factional ruling party. It only comes together to ignore the Great Unwashed in moments of great importance, like when it is ramping up for another major assault on national sovereignty.

Naturally, Katherine Lopez and some of the other bootlickers at NRO are much more interested in discussing classic rock than contemplating the reality of the Republican betrayal of America. But once the moment passes, they’ll resume the usual “Democrats are Super-scary” theme in a futile attempt to salvage the November elections for their preferred ruling party faction.

One day finally seems to have arrived for Mr. Derbyshire. I wonder when it will arrive for you?

ID the would-be Nazi

Mad As Hell is very upset:

But…but…the nazis did it!
So we can too! So said Vox Day on WorldNut Daily a week or so back. ‘Vox Day’ is, of course, a play on ‘Vox Dei,’ that is, ‘Voice of God’ in Latin. What an arrogant, ignorant, pretentious little wanker. Unless he was thinking of the Argentinian rock band of the same name. In which case he’s an arrogant, ignorant, pretentious little wanker.

In support of his case, he cites New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, famous for his hate for smoking and his love for children and animals….

Bloomberg Says Plan to Deport Millions Is ‘Ridiculous’ – New York Times

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, in his most scathing attack to date on legislation working its way through Congress, declared a House proposal to deport 11 million illegal immigrants “pure fantasy” and called parts of a Senate plan “no less ridiculous.” “You have to wonder what world Congress is living in,” the New York City mayor said in an interview on CNN. “Talk to any mayor who has to enforce the law and you’ll find that none of these things are remotely possible.”

What Mr. Bloomberg considers possible, however, is this:

Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg thrust himself into the national immigration debate Wednesday, advocating a plan that would establish a DNA or fingerprint database to track and verify all legal U.S. workers.

The mayor also said elements of the legislation moving through Congress are ridiculous and said lawmakers who want to deport all illegal immigrants are living in a “fantasy.”

In an editorial for The Wall Street Journal and two nationally televised interviews, the mayor reiterated his long-standing belief that the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the United States should be given the opportunity for citizenship, saying that deporting them is impossible and would devastate the economy.

So, deporting illegals is an impossible and ridiculous fantasy, various historical examples of successful mass deportations notwithstanding, while tracking the DNA of American citizens and legal residents is not only practical, but downright desirable. We might as well chip everyone while getting those samples, don’t you think?

You see, forced implant technology and DNA-tracking is morally acceptable, because the Nazis didn’t do either.